BOKEH... impossible on the GX200?

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BOKEH... impossible on the GX200?

Postby karmester » Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:00 pm

Hi,

I am at work so a bit short on time but spent some time looking around this forum to see if i could find a 'how-to' to do bokeh with my gx200. So far I love the camera... but was really hoping that it would be possible to get bokeh shots with it... I'm having a hard time cracking the code.. but it seems, from what I've read here, there's not code to crack... it's a problem of physics and optics?
I figured I'd ask the experts here.

Thanks in advance for any insights.

best wishes to you all.

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Re: BOKEH... impossible on the GX200?

Postby Nevin » Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:46 pm

Hi, Joshua,

Probably you know that the strength or weakness, depending on your interpretation, of the small sensor of GX200 is the shallow DOF. If you need to do bokeh, the way out is the macro or digital macro mode. ;)
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Re: BOKEH... impossible on the GX200?

Postby karmester » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:02 pm

Thank you Nevin,

sooo... use the macro mode and then zoom a lot? (I'm so not worthy of this camera... I'm a real newbie!) ;-)

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Re: BOKEH... impossible on the GX200?

Postby odklizec » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:05 pm

Hi Joshua and welcome here!

I'm afraid, there is not much you can do with GX200 in respect of bokeh. Your only hope is macro mode and you can do something with TC-1 tele extension lens at a very short focus distance (around 1m or so). See my test here.

The source of "problem" lies in too small sensor, which is both bless and curse. It's bless, because you can shot with Snap focus or with very approximate manual focus. It's curse because of its inability to produce smooth background outside focus distances typical for Macro mode.
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Re: BOKEH... impossible on the GX200?

Postby karmester » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:35 pm

Thanks Pavel,

crap.. I guess I'll have to sell it! ;-) I saw your tests.. they look good. I still have so much to learn about using the camera but it's a beautiful device and I'm sure I'll get a lot of good photos out of it...

here's a link to some pics i shot yesterday at a gallery opening:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jfoto/sets ... 388726494/

it's a start...

I'll experiment with macro setting and aperture priority and see what i can make happen with regards to bokeh.

I suppose i can always buy a nice digital SLR but I just can't see wanting to lug the thing around.. I bought the gx200 because i was hoping it would do EVERYTHING I want AND be fairly portable...

Thanks again for your help. I look forward to learning a lot on this forum.

Best wishes,

Joshua
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Re: BOKEH... impossible on the GX200?

Postby elpecoso » Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:42 am

bokeh depends on:
- Sensor size: bigger sensor, bigger bokeh
- Aperture: bigger aperture (smaller f number), bigger bokeh
- Focal length: bigger focal, bigger bokeh
- Subject-to-background distance: bigger distance, bigger bokeh

So, sensor small, not too much focal length (72mm), not big aperture at maximum focal (f/4.4)...

put the subject close to the camera, background farest as possible, play with zoom and aperture, pray and shoot :twisted:

BTW, my GX200 fell into a river and drowned, now is traveling to SAT :(
no bokeh for me now...

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